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		<title>Daily Links: 5th July 2010</title>
		<link>http://mayank.name/2010/07/05/daily-links-5th-july-2010/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another post to keep me attuned on blogging and sharing some useful information in the process. 1) Speed of eating &#8220;key to obesity&#8221; &#8211; http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7681458.stm 2) How to build one of a kind Facebook Fan Page: http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/how-to-build-engaging-one-of-kind-facebook-fan-pages/ 3) Stephen Fry: What I Wish I&#8217;d Known When I was 18: http://vimeo.com/11414505 and just for the laughs, this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another post to keep me attuned on blogging and sharing some useful information in the process.</p>
<p>1) Speed of eating &#8220;key to obesity&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7681458.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7681458.stm</a></p>
<p>2) How to build one of a kind Facebook Fan Page: <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/how-to-build-engaging-one-of-kind-facebook-fan-pages/">http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/28/how-to-build-engaging-one-of-kind-facebook-fan-pages/</a></p>
<p>3) Stephen Fry: What I Wish I&#8217;d Known When I was 18: <a href="http://vimeo.com/11414505" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/11414505</a></p>
<p>and just for the laughs, this Vicks Action 500 AD(by Anurag Kashyap apparently)</p>
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		<title>Unraveling The Mystery of Facebook Community Page</title>
		<link>http://mayank.name/2010/04/25/unraveling-the-mystery-of-facebook-community-page/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the starting of this month I noticed a new option while creating a Facebook Fan Page and I wasn&#8217;t quite sure what was going on and what to expect next. It was yesterday when I stumbled upon this that things started to fall into place. The info of this page (Electronics and Communication Engg. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the starting of this month I noticed a <a href="http://mayank.name/2010/04/01/facebook-adds-community-page/" target="_blank">new option while creating a Facebook Fan Page</a> and I wasn&#8217;t quite sure what was going on and what to expect next. It was yesterday when I stumbled upon <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Electronics-and-Communiation-Engg-Indian-Institute-of-Technology-Guwahati/112874662064013?v=desc" target="_blank">this</a></p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_comm_1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1398" title="Facebook Community Page" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_comm_1-300x100.png" alt="Facebook Community Page" width="400" height="133" /></a></p>
<p>that things started to fall into place. The info of this page (Electronics and Communication Engg. IIT Guwahati) reads</p>
<blockquote><p>Our goal is to make this Community Page the best collection of shared knowledge on this topic. If you have a passion for <strong>Electronics and Communiation Engg. (Indian Institute of Technology Guwahati)</strong>, <a rel="dialog" href="http://www.facebook.com/ajax/hubs/sign_up.php?page_id=112874662064013">sign up</a> and we&#8217;ll let you know when we&#8217;re ready for your help. You can also get us started by suggesting a relevant <a rel="dialog" href="http://www.facebook.com/ajax/hubs/wiki_suggest.php?page_id=112874662064013">Wikipedia article</a> or the <a rel="dialog" href="http://www.facebook.com/ajax/hubs/wiki_suggest.php?page_id=112874662064013">Official Site</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess that says it all</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Make this Community Page the best collection of shared knowledge on this topic </strong>(Regularly updated/active Content? )<br />
Think of it, if there were to be a decently popular fan page(community page) on anything, say Yoga or Soccer then it would get updated regularly and would have tons of discussions going on it. This page on Soccer would have far more content than any other page on the same topic and it shouldn&#8217;t be difficult to guess the SEO juice it will derive and how advertiser friendly that page is going to be.</li>
<li><strong>If you have a passion for Electronics and Communiation Engg. (Indian Institute of Technology Guwahati), sign up and we&#8217;ll let you know when we&#8217;re ready for your help. (Wikipedia?)</strong><br />
Yes, another community driven page which could have a few administrators or content curators that&#8217;ll ensure that the activity on the community page is sustained.</li>
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<p>So while everyone happily takes care of the content and discussions, facebook sells the ad space at a premium to advertisers and earns $$. That&#8217;s not it, to facilitate the creation of numerous community pages like the one on E &amp;C IIT Guwahati, Facebook has started to automatically create community pages that are up for grabs and might be promoted via ads or news feeds in future.</p>
<p>So what do you think about this move by Facebook? Should Wikipedia be scared?</p>
<p><strong>Update 1</strong>:  There&#8217;s something more to the move by Facebook around Community Pages. Apparently they&#8217;ve started re-categorizing the generic pages(non brands/company pages) as Community Pages. Here&#8217;s an email I received about one of the pages I had created a while back</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_cat.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1405" title="Facebook re-categorizing generic pages" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_cat-300x130.png" alt="Facebook re-categorizing generic pages " width="400" height="165" /></a></p>
<p>Clicking on the link(for mis-categorizing) leads here<a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_cat1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1406" title="Facebook Mis-categorization of pages" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_cat1-300x176.png" alt="Facebook Mis-categorization of pages" width="300" height="176" /></a></p>
<p>Does this move worry all those who created pages around various social objects/activities? I think so.</p>
<p><strong>Update 2 (1/5/2010): </strong></p>
<p>While logging on to Facebook for the first time yesterday, I saw this notification</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_com.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1408" title="From information to community pages" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_com-300x138.png" alt="From information to community pages" width="300" height="138" /></a></p>
<p>As expected Facebook is indeed on a big mission to turn all the information into community pages. So now all the interests, favorite shows, books etc in my profile are linked to their respective community pages.</p>
<p>Another social wiki in the making</p>
<p><strong>Update 3 (23/8/2010):</strong></p>
<p>Just saw this.</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_comm_2.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1452" title="Facebook Community Page" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fb_comm_2-300x151.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="151" /><br />
</a>The community pages now also have a Wikipedia tab which pulls in all the information about the subject from Wiki. Let&#8217;s see how things shape up from here.
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		<title>Using Facebook to find the Hero</title>
		<link>http://mayank.name/2010/04/22/using-facebook-to-find-the-hero/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook Ads are something despite trying my best I find myself unable to ignore. In fact I think  my eyes are now always on a look out for conspicuous ads while I am on Facebook, and that&#8217;s how I noticed this ad It&#8217;s not often that you get too see an ad like this one &#8220;Ashutosh Gowarikar [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook Ads are something despite trying my best I find myself unable to ignore. In fact I think  my eyes are now always on a look out for conspicuous ads while I am on Facebook, and that&#8217;s how I noticed this ad</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/budd_ad.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1389" title="Buddha Ad on Facebook" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/budd_ad.png" alt="Buddha Ad on Facebook" width="217" height="284" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not often that you get too see an ad like this one &#8220;Ashutosh Gowarikar is searching for an actor to play Siddhartha/Buddha. If you are male 20 to 30 years of age then audition now!&#8221;. This sure looks interesting. On clicking the ad you are taken to http://www.buddha-movie.com/</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/budd_site.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1390" title="Buddha Movie Website" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/budd_site-300x174.png" alt="Buddha Movie Website" width="300" height="174" /></a></p>
<p>where you can find out some basic information about the film and fill up a form to apply for auditions.</p>
<p>This is a really simple and innovative use of using the online medium (mostly Social) to solve a problem(finding new talent) and generating a good buzz long before the movie gets on the floor</p>
<p>Buddha the movie is also on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Buddha-Movie/367683926722" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/BuddhaTheMovie" target="_blank">Twitter</a>
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		<title>Facebook adds Community Page</title>
		<link>http://mayank.name/2010/04/01/facebook-adds-community-page/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While attempting to create a new Facebook page just now I spotted the new design and what Facebook calls &#8220;Community Page&#8221;. Though it makes great sense to have a category called community page for there wasn&#8217;t a category for non brands/businesses/celebrities and it required a lot of thinking and guess work to fit your community [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While attempting to create a new Facebook page just now I spotted the new design and what Facebook calls &#8220;Community Page&#8221;. Though it makes great sense to have a category called community page for there wasn&#8217;t a category for non brands/businesses/celebrities and it required a lot of thinking and guess work to fit your community page (eating, drinking, playing) into game, leisure and what not.</p>
<p><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nfb.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1381" title="Facebook Community Page" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nfb-300x144.png" alt="" width="300" height="144" /></a></p>
<p>However what&#8217;s intriguing is the statement mentioned right below the Community Page:</p>
<blockquote><p>Generate support for your favourite cause or topic by creating a Community Page. <strong>If it becomes popular(attracting thousands of fans), it will be adopted and maintained by the Facebook community.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Any idea what the last line there means?
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		<title>Practical tips for handling a Facebook Fan Page Crisis</title>
		<link>http://mayank.name/2010/03/21/practical-tips-for-handling-a-facebook-fan-page-crisis/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple days back the food giant Nestle(after being targeted by Greenpeace) stepped on the wrong side of Social Media by posting rude and insensitive status updates and comments on their Facebook page. As expected, updates like this and comments like this did not go down well with their existing fans and those who checked [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple days back the food giant Nestle(after being targeted by Greenpeace) stepped on the wrong side of Social Media by posting rude and insensitive status updates and comments on their Facebook page. As expected, updates like this <a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/status1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1300" title="Nestle FB Page Status" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/status1.png" alt="" width="400" height="129" /></a></p>
<p>and comments like this<br />
<a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/comment1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1301" title="Lesson in manners" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/comment1.png" alt="" width="383" height="61" /></a><br />
did not go down well with their existing fans and those who checked the page because of the brouhaha. Therefore, Nestle suddenly found itself in middle of another debacle courtesy inappropriate management of their Facebook page. The person handling their Facebook page obviously had no idea (nor does he/she have any now) of the blunder he/she committed.</p>
<p>Now that the mistakes have been made and realized, what next? I&#8217;ve read as much as ten posts by Indian and International bloggers/social media <strong>whatevers</strong> essentially either link blogging what others are saying or making the most obvious and superficial suggestions how the tone of the messages should not have been rude etc. Interestingly none of them offered a direction if not a solution of what can a brand do if it happens to run into a situation like this.<br />
Possibly, it&#8217;s because none of those who wrote about the Nestle Crisis have ever managed a single Fan page by themselves.</p>
<p>Keeping that aside here&#8217;s a quick list of things that I would have done had I been in charge of the Fan page<br />
( I have intentionally limited the scope of discussion to Facebook Fan Page and Off course I don&#8217;t expect everyone to agree with my method)</p>
<p>1) <strong>Admit you have made mistake(s):<br />
<span style="font-weight: normal;">One of the best ways to start your firefighting plan is by acknowledging your mistake and maybe promising that it won&#8217;t happen in future. A big brand admitting they did something wrong and apologizing gives everyone the signal that the brand is conscious of what it is doing and sets the expectation right. Also, most aggressive critics and fans turned critics an ego boost from this.</span></strong></p>
<p>2) <strong>Remove offensive content:<br />
Yes<span style="font-weight: normal;">, remove the content that offended people. Irrespective of what others feel I am a strongly believer that you should remove offensive content to avoid it offending even more people. An offensive status message will keep getting more eyeballs with time and it&#8217;s best to take it out of the loop. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">3) </span>Change the Landing Tab:</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">This is what one gets if they go to the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nestle/24287259392" target="_blank">Nestle Facebook page</a></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nestle/24287259392" target="_blank"> </a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/landing1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1304" title="Nestle Facebook Landing Tab" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/landing1.png" alt="" width="400" height="375" /></a></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">The deal here is that it shows you the same things irrespective of the fact whether you are a fan or not. This landing page could temporarily be changed to some other tab, say info.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;"><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/settings.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1305" title="settings" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/settings.png" alt="" width="470" height="123" /></a></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">Facebook Default Landing Tab settings.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">4)</span>Turn of &#8220;Auto expand&#8221; comments:</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Slightly below the default landing tab drop down is another option that let&#8217;s you configure if the comments </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;"><a href="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/comments.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1306" title="comments" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/comments.png" alt="" width="315" height="40" /></a></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">on a status will be expanded by default(with top few comments listed) or will they just show up as <strong>*x comments*,</strong> only on clicking which one can see the comments. The idea here is to reduce the visibility of negative content so as to reduce others doing the same thing.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">These are just a few things that can possibly be done to control the situation from flaring further and in case things go really out of hand </span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><strong>temporarily stop fans from posting comments to your page all-together</strong></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">All the points mentioned above are just for firefighting a Nestle like crisis on Facebook and are obviously not the perfect solution. Some people for example might have issues with removing the offensive content or making it less/easily visible but then a temporary fix needs to be done to avoid things from spilling over. Also, once the basic firefighting is taken care of the brand must get back to doing the right things and work its way out of the Crisis.</span>
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		<title>Looking for someome? someone is on Facebook?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mayank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ego searches on Google aren&#8217;t uncommon and one of the most recent ego searches made me notice something unusual. Yes, that&#8217;s an ad by Facebook for the name &#8220;Mayank Dhingra&#8221;. Out of curiosity I made a random India name search and Sure enough Facebook is upto something, A couple more random searches on Indian names confirmed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ego searches on Google aren&#8217;t uncommon and one of the most recent ego searches made me notice something unusual.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1222" title="facebook ad" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/fb_ad4.png" alt="facebook ad" width="400" height="255" />Yes, that&#8217;s an ad by Facebook for the name &#8220;Mayank Dhingra&#8221;. Out of curiosity I made a random India name search and</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1224" title="facebook ad " src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/fb_ad3.png" alt="facebook ad " width="400" height="287" /></p>
<p>Sure enough Facebook is upto something, A couple more random searches on Indian names confirmed it</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1226" title="facebook ad" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/fb_ad2.png" alt="facebook ad" width="400" height="315" /></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1227" title="random facebook ads" src="http://mayank.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/fb_ad1.png" alt="random facebook ads" width="400" height="393" /></p>
<p>Looks like Facebook has taken a lot of Indian names(random?) and bought Google ads for them. A SEM trick to get more traffic and signups?
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